The PvE-vs-PvP rift never really left, but today it surfaced from two directions at once and they did not agree on what game they were playing. u/absolutetoolbag's post arguing PvP players have no idea how friendly the average lobby is sits at a 0.72 upvote ratio with 321 comments. Two hours later u/AnatomicTsunami's farewell-to-PvE notice - expedition done, seven days to burn the locker - is at 0.68 with 166. Both threads are the same argument from opposite ends, and both are bleeding downvotes from the people they are talking past.
The quiet third post is the one that actually clarified it. u/Ok_Caterpillar6440's "Worst kind of rat" clip - a friendly handshake that turned into a back-shot - pulled 423 comments and a near-unanimous top reply from u/PopCanPipe: "Rats I can deal with, but fake friendlies make me want to quit playing immediately." The friendly economy works because most raiders honor it. It only takes a few clips a week to convince the next person not to wave.
Friendly is a meta, not a personality
The absolutetoolbag thread is interesting because the comment section largely agrees with the premise and still downvotes the post. The claim - 30 straight lobbies, hundreds of raids, no one shoots - reads as bragging in a game where the people losing kits to backstabs are looking for sympathy, not a survey. The room has settled on something most posts dance around: friendly lobbies are not proof the game is peaceful. They are proof that cooperation is the dominant strategy when nobody has a reason to defect, and the season's last week is exactly when reasons to defect appear. AnatomicTsunami announcing the burn is just being honest about the schedule.
"Rats I can deal with, but fake friendlies make me want to quit playing immediately."
U/POPCANPIPE · ↑ 403 · R/ARCRAIDERS
""I wanna burn through my gear" *goes in with a free loadout*"
U/HAPPY_PINEAPPLE_8212 · ↑ 336 · R/ARCRAIDERS
"All on 91 durab looks like dooping"
U/MOINMAHLZEITSERVUS · ↑ 520 · R/ARCRAIDERS
"I have not seen any proof this key exists. I am going to quit my job and leave my family so I can focus on this."
U/DAB12AC · ↑ 1.2K · R/ARCRAIDERS
